How did you begin working in sculpture?
For as long as I can remember I've been in love with sculpture. When I was 9 years old, my parents took me to see Michelangelo's "Pieta" at the 1965 New York World’s Fair. As the moving sidewalk passed in front of the polished stone, I saw what looked like living figures frozen in marble and at that moment I knew I wanted to be an artist.
I began working with metal in 1975, while earning a BFA at The Cooper Union. My teachers read like a Who’s Who of contemporary art. I studied with Hans Haacke and Vito Acconci, Kenneth Snelson, Jim Dine and Louise Bourgeois.
Your sculptures are mostly composed of steel and/or found objects. How do you explain this unusual choice of materials?
I have been working with the same types of materials for decades now and I can’t put my finger on
exactly why I’m drawn to these objects. What I can say is that I have a deep connection to the act of shaping metals and working with odd assemblages of objects.
When I begin to work with these materials I feel the juices flowing and enter into a kind of creative
rapture. The process is beyond logic. I can begin working and something poetic grabs me and changes me and the work begins to exist on its own terms. I am there as a medium to guide the process.
When you graduated from The Cooper Union you began an apprenticeship with Louise Bourgeois. What was it like working for one of the most influential artists of our time?
I was both thrilled and slightly apprehensive when Louise asked me to be her assistant. Always the wry provocateur, she tested my resolve on the first day. Ushering me up a flight of stairs in her Chelsea brownstone, she opened up a closet door and pointed to an inside wall. “You will make a portal”, she said and then walked away. On the floor was a lone pickaxe. When she returned a half-hour later and saw the hole I put in her wall, she smiled and said, “You break through a wall without knowing what is on the other side?”
I made several more portals in the walls of her house over the years. She liked to scurry through these odd shaped archways to escape from exasperated gallery owners and art dealers.
You worked as an illustrator and in broadcast graphics before becoming a sculptor. How did you make the transition from commercial to fine art?
I worked as a newspaper illustrator in Oceanside, CA in the early 80’s. Moving back east in 1983, I
began working at ABC as an artist in the broadcast graphics department. An electronic revolution was underway where pencils and brushes were being replaced by digital art. Specialized computers geared towards artists would fundamentally change the way graphics were created.
I seemed to take naturally to the new tools and as a result, took on greater creative control. Within
three years I was heading up the network graphics department. I won an Emmy in 1990. Yet, for all
the glamour and challenges that came with the job, I knew I had to make a choice - either grow old as a network executive or leave ABC and work as an independent artist. I chose the latter and never looked back.
You spent some years living and working in Turkey. What was that like?
It was a big change from the bustling halls of ABC to the lone walls of the studio. In the interim, I
accepted a position teaching art and design at Bilkent University in Ankara, Turkey, and moved there in 1992 with my wife and two young sons. Over the next two years I painted and taught.
The European attitude towards artists was very different from what I experienced in the US. Artists
were admired as an integral part of society and I felt encouraged. Towards the end of my tenure I had a solo show at Ars Gallery in Ankara, entitled Evrim ve Yokolus (Evolution and Extinction). The success of the exhibition strengthened my resolve to go back to the States and become a full-time artist.
How did you end up in Los Angeles?
It was a circuitous journey from my first studio in Cooperstown, NY in 1995, to my current studio in Los Angeles. In 2005, I began the move west by relocating my studio from Cooperstown, NY, to Taos, NM. In that mountain town full of rugged individualists I was able to completely immerse myself in my work. Influenced by the stark landscape and rural lifestyle, I began to collect discarded objects and use them as materials for a series of fetishistic assemblages I call, Midden sculptures. These pieces gave new life to clusters of toys, tools, utensils, computer parts and plastic objects, as sculptures that spoke of ecological consciousness and rebirth. My Taos studio was a shack with no running water or insulation. It had a plywood roof that leaked like a sieve when it rained and during the spring snowmelt. But it had a splendid view of Taos Mountain and
intrepid clients found adventure in the pilgrimage to see my work. In Taos I met Larry Bell who had studios in both Taos and Venice Beach. In his Taos workshop he showed me how he created metallic finishes on glass and paper using a hi-tech process called thin film deposition.
Larry was always willing to share his advice. With an ambivalent attitude towards the art world he
referred to galleries as, “upscale consignment shops.” He had a coterie of counter-culture artist friends in Taos that included Dennis Hopper, Ken Price, Dean Stockwell and Ronald Davis. When I started visiting Larry at his studio in Venice Beach, I began to see the advantages of living and working in Southern California.
In 2010, I left Taos and re-settled in Los Angeles. In my new studio, I began work on the LA Buddha Series. These sculptural collages are made from discarded metals and objects that are affixed to recycled plastic freight pallets. The materials include steel, stainless steel, glass, copper and dolls. These three-dimensional collages explore the ironic juxtaposition of planned obsolescence, spirituality and modernity.
Can you tell us more about the LA Buddha series?
Art critic Dave Quick said it well,
“A recent visit to the Edward Kienholz installation ‘Five Car Stud 1969-1972’ at the Los Angeles County
Art Museum (9/4/11-1/15/12) was a powerful reminder that the roots of narrative art utilizing found
objects to make impactful social statements run deep. With his current series ‘Bifurcated LA Buddha,’ Donald Gialanella continues the tradition. The nine works are an assemblage of various urban/suburban jetsam and flotsam collected by Gialanella and meticulously crafted into compositions. The over-arching theme of Buddha serves as metaphor for the reincarnation of the objects that lived their initial lives, and are returning in new lives. “The genre is also a nod to Southern California multi-culturalism. (Indeed, one of the area’s largest Buddhist temples is located in the San Fernando Valley not far from Gialanella’s studio.) All nine works are mounted on recycled plastic pallets, which hang on the wall and create space between the wall and
the work to create a more three-dimensional, sculptural effect. The pallets themselves continue the metaphorical reincarnation -- pallets that once carried other loads, now carry Gialanella’s creativity.
“The artist’s craftsmanship is superb and varied including welding, metal fabrication, incorporation of many different materials and constant attention to the overall composition whereby no single found object dominates its peers. The objects are a wealth of what Southern California is all about – my favorites are fragments of real Cal-Trans freeway signage (what could be more LA!). In total, “Bifurcated Buddha” is a robust creative effort by an accomplished mid-career artist – strong suggestion that
Gialanella has decades of major contributions still ahead.” Dave Quick is co-author of “Motion-Motion Kinetic Art” (Peregrine Smith Publishers), contributes to the Santa Monica Mirror, and in 2011 curated the exhibit “Oceans Four – Mixing Media” for the Annenberg Beach House Gallery of the Santa Monica Cultural Affairs Division.
What’s it like living and working in Los Angeles?
I love living in LA, but having the perspective of being from the East Coast. LA’s a city that thrives on ego and glitz. Show biz, fashion, stars, beaches and traffic - LA is a surreal dream of vapid commercialism and split second fame. Anything goes. It’s a place that allows the artist total freedom where anything is possible.
What inspires you?
I’m inspired by seeing vast quantities of odd materials piled up in scrap yards and landfills. Thomas Edison said, Genius is one percent inspiration and 99 percent perspiration. What he didn’t say is how critical that 1% inspiration is for the other 99% to be successful.
What makes you happy?
I am happiest when working on a project. I enjoy seeing ideas develop into their final form. But the
happiness is short lived. I’m fickle. Soon after a piece is finished I am glad to see it crated up and
shipped out and I’m anxious to get started on the next project.I find that each successive piece leads me further into uncharted territory, like stepping stones across a river. You can’t get to the other side without taking small steps to reach your goal.
What artists that inspire you?
Jeff Koons, Julian Schnabel, Richard Serra, Hans Hoffman, Cy Twombly. Also, Picasso, Matisse,
Giacometti, Dali, Basquiat, Keith Haring and Christo.
How do you stay focused?
I am almost obsessively focused on work. It’s more a question of how to stop working and focus on
What are some hardships in your field of work?
There are both physical and psychological hardships in being a sculptor. Physically, sculpture is taxing work. Lifting, cutting, welding, bending, hammering, grinding, finishing. I face manual labor every time I try to shape unyielding materials to suit my vision.Psychologically, the hardest thing about creating art is having faith that you can will something into existence that hasn’t been seen before and that has meaning to others.
How long does it typically take you to finish a piece?
The process of making a sculpture can be as short as a week or span many months, it depends on the scale and complexity of the piece. Each design goes from that light bulb idea moment to being drawn on paper. Then I make a model or maquette to explore the idea in 3-dimensions. After refining the design a production plan and budget are developed and finally the actual construction of the piece in the studio can begin.
What advice would you give to others who want to become artists?
To be a successful artist requires a singular focus and hard work. You have to devote yourself to making art. People have the idea that artists rush into the studio when they feel the inspiration, but it doesn’t work that way. You have to go to the studio like a job. You are what you do for the majority of the day. If you are working as a waiter to support yourself, it’s impossible to devote yourself completely to the lifestyle of creating art.
You've had so many amazing accomplishments and experiences. How does it feel to see one of your pieces in public?
I am very grateful that my work resonates with the public. Communication through visual imagery is the ultimate goal of art. David Salle once said, “Maybe ‘communicate’ isn’t the right word for what an artwork might do; maybe ‘sing’ is better”. The competition is fierce in the public art arena and it’s not easy to be recognized amongst the professional design teams and architectural companies that have become big players. It’s the classic catch-22, most commissions want previous experience doing public work but the chances of landing that first big public job are very slim.
Then there are the politics. With a public art commission comes a slew of bureaucrats to deal with,
including cultural affairs commissioners, city council members, town boards, planning committees, advisory boards, city engineers and district councils.
What are you working on now?
I’m working on a landmark piece for The Lucile Packard Children’s Hospital in Palo Alto, CA, to create a life-size cow sculpture made entirely of toys. Two pieces from the stainless steel Orb series were recently installed on public display in Pasadena, CA and Napa, CA. To fulfill a commission from Arrow Electronics in Denver, CO, I created a large Orb made of electronic
devices, computer parts, cell phones and household appliances. The sculpture entitled, Motherboard Earth, is a visual time-capsule that symbolizes how rapidly technology is changing our world.
"Sometimes less is better.”
EW: Why do you make art?
S: Because it comes from my soul and I really can’t do anything else, I mean, not literally, but with my illness I couldn’t do anything involving construction. It’s my life, it’s my business, it’s my passion. I love it, because it makes me happy. I love the arts.
EW: Describe the first moment that you felt like an artist.
S: I think I felt like an artist when I sold my first very large painting. I had sold small pieces and donated art years prior. When I sold my first large painting it was in the early nineties. The person that wanted it, wanted it so bad, but she didn’t have enough money. So, she sold her vehicle in order to buy the painting. That’s when I really felt like an artist and just knew that this is what I was supposed to do. I felt sorry for her because she sold her car, but you know, she really wanted the painting.
EW: Which artist do you admire most and why?
S: Salvador Dali. I admire him most, just because of what he created throughout his life. I love surrealism.
Sometimes less is better. Dali had an amazing way of conveying deep emotions and thought with the use of a simple ant or staff. He was a master at the use of symbolism in his work. In Salvador’s case even in some of his work less was better and I really admire his thought process, his mind. He was a genus.
I also love, John Lennon as an overall artist.
EW: When do you know that your truly in the “creative zone” and why? Like how did you get there?
S: When I feel like I am in a creative zone, it’s obvious. There’s times when I’m off and I’m not in that creative zone. Some people say to me, “well you have to work through it,” and I say, “no, YOU have to work through it.” You know, I’m self-taught so, if I’m not feeling creative, I don’t force it. When I’m on, I’m on. It could be weeks that I’m on and ten days that I’m off. But, I don't mess with it when I’m off, because it’s just not flowing. Right now, before show time, when the stress is on me to produce work I really hit it running. I paint the best when I’m under a little stress. Because, I know it’s has to be done.
EW: Where are you most inspired?
S: Outside. I love painting outside. I just like sitting in my backyard when it’s not to hot or to cold when there’s a slight breeze. That’s my favorite place to be. The lighting is pure when you’re outside.
EW: You had a piece featured in an art show staged at the Louvre in Paris. Can you tell me about that piece, specifically what was the inspiration behind it?
TD: The piece was called “Unarmed Warrior”.
My pieces evolve from inspiration from a rough idea. I don’t really draw out something and then sculpt it. I might, on occasion, do that. But, the process usually starts as an idea so, I started out with "Unarmed Warrior" by making a figure that I thought was interesting and that lead me to the end result.
EW: How has being an actor benefited you as a sculptor?
TD: First, I was an actor and then I became a director and spent roughly twenty years directing television. Directing is strictly a two-dimensional kind of art. You have to look at a scene and visualize it, then finally, block it and put it together into a three-dimensional piece that you’re looking at. I’m always able to tell pretty much what it’s going to look like. And I also am able to pull out of myself the ability to create from instinct. I’ve always been able to look at things three-dimensional and visualize them. for me, I feel that acting/directing and sculpting all relate to one another this way.
EW: When was the first moment you felt like an artist?
TD: I did a lot of copper sculpting in my late teens. I had always planned that after I retire from acting and directing I would put more energy into sculpting and see where the creative process takes me.
So, I guess in my early twenties I actually showed some mixed media things. I sorta felt like I was an artist type of person from my teens on. But there isn’t a distinct moment in my memory. It’s hard to say when, because I don’t know when, maybe never.
EW: Besides art, what are you passionate about?
TD: I like to go to the beach. I’m passionate about surfing and sailing. But, at my age now, I’ve had a few knee surgeries so I’m not as able to be as active. I’m interested in a lot of different thing in terms of hobbies. I’m involved with a lot of different projects, year in and year out.
EW: Where are you most inspired?
TD: Nature. My sculptures come from nature. Because, all of my pieces are done in burl wood. It’s apart of wood that’s between the tree and the roots. It’s a piece of some really hard wood. And that’s what I start with. The wood I use is a bridge between nature and the sculptures I create. It has a relationship between the figure and mother nature.
EW: Whatever artist to you admire most and why?
TD: I am admired with Renoir.
His mistress was equally as good as he was but, he received all the recognition.
Henri Moore for me, is one of my all time inspirational sculptor.
Some of the Impressionists I appreciate because I can relate to the progression of the movement.
Most artists who I really like they aren’t heard of. Like, I’ll go to galleries and look at piece that I really like, and admire the artist for their work, but they aren’t household names.